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		<title>Comment on 500 posts and still going strong! by Robin</title>
		<link>http://www.theproposalguys.com/2010/02/26/500-posts-and-still-going-strong/comment-page-1/#comment-27496</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations!  Keep &#039;em coming.  Love the video.</description>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;The Buyer&#8217;s Guide to Bidding&#8221; by 500 posts and still going strong! &#124; The Proposal Guys</title>
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		<dc:creator>500 posts and still going strong! &#124; The Proposal Guys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] buyers: our recent white paper discussing how purchasers perceive proposals is still available for free download!)  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] buyers: our recent white paper discussing how purchasers perceive proposals is still available for free download!)  [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Grand Opening by mgirl</title>
		<link>http://www.theproposalguys.com/2010/02/17/grand-opening/comment-page-1/#comment-26201</link>
		<dc:creator>mgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 00:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry you had that experience.  I have found bidders conferences to be very valuable; at the very least you get to see the competition. It&#039;s always fun to see who you are playing with right???  But most importantly it is the first opportunity to ask key questions around the proposal.  I use pre-proposal conferences to inquire about specific requirements, especially those that should be removed for whatever reason.  It&#039;s difficult to be the first one to speak up, but once you do others will follow.  It&#039;s very powerful when you ask if a requirement could be removed because it limits the bid or solution and the other 4 major players agree with you. I&#039;ve had more than one requirement removed this way.  I say always, always attend pre-bid and bid openings. It shows the client that you are serious about the bid and them; after all they have the meetings for us not for them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry you had that experience.  I have found bidders conferences to be very valuable; at the very least you get to see the competition. It&#8217;s always fun to see who you are playing with right???  But most importantly it is the first opportunity to ask key questions around the proposal.  I use pre-proposal conferences to inquire about specific requirements, especially those that should be removed for whatever reason.  It&#8217;s difficult to be the first one to speak up, but once you do others will follow.  It&#8217;s very powerful when you ask if a requirement could be removed because it limits the bid or solution and the other 4 major players agree with you. I&#8217;ve had more than one requirement removed this way.  I say always, always attend pre-bid and bid openings. It shows the client that you are serious about the bid and them; after all they have the meetings for us not for them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Grand Opening by John Bredehoft</title>
		<link>http://www.theproposalguys.com/2010/02/17/grand-opening/comment-page-1/#comment-26158</link>
		<dc:creator>John Bredehoft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 21:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My experience has been more on the &quot;staid&quot; end of the scale. I haven&#039;t attended a bid opening, but I have attended pre-bid conferences. The pre-bid conference that sticks out in my mind was for a statewide system in Connecticut. The state agency had allocated a large room for the conference, and all of the bidders flew personnel out to Connecticut for the conference. The state then opened the floor for questions...and none of us asked a question. The conference was over in half an hour. I spent the rest of the morning visiting the Mark Twain House in Hartford, so the trip wasn&#039;t a total loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience has been more on the &#8220;staid&#8221; end of the scale. I haven&#8217;t attended a bid opening, but I have attended pre-bid conferences. The pre-bid conference that sticks out in my mind was for a statewide system in Connecticut. The state agency had allocated a large room for the conference, and all of the bidders flew personnel out to Connecticut for the conference. The state then opened the floor for questions&#8230;and none of us asked a question. The conference was over in half an hour. I spent the rest of the morning visiting the Mark Twain House in Hartford, so the trip wasn&#8217;t a total loss.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Proposal words that work by Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad you posted this! Coworkers think I&#039;m nuts when I compare proposal-writing (and even job searching) to dating. I really think the same rules apply, though. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad you posted this! Coworkers think I&#8217;m nuts when I compare proposal-writing (and even job searching) to dating. I really think the same rules apply, though. :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Meet Proposal Panda! by Proposal Panda Visits Nashville &#124; The Proposal Guys</title>
		<link>http://www.theproposalguys.com/2009/03/22/meet-proposal-panda/comment-page-1/#comment-25030</link>
		<dc:creator>Proposal Panda Visits Nashville &#124; The Proposal Guys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Panda travels the world visiting proposal professionals. Click here for more details. If you&#8217;d like Panda to visit you, just email us at  [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Recommended Reads by BJ Lownie</title>
		<link>http://www.theproposalguys.com/2010/02/05/recommended-reads/comment-page-1/#comment-24798</link>
		<dc:creator>BJ Lownie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great list an d thanks for the recommendations. 

I loved &#039;Water for Elephants&#039; (and have recommended it to many people.) I also greatly enjoyed Bel Canto.  I found Middlesex a bit disturbing but an interesting read. In my &#039;to read&#039; list are Stones form the River and Three DAy Road. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great list an d thanks for the recommendations. </p>
<p>I loved &#8216;Water for Elephants&#8217; (and have recommended it to many people.) I also greatly enjoyed Bel Canto.  I found Middlesex a bit disturbing but an interesting read. In my &#8216;to read&#8217; list are Stones form the River and Three DAy Road. :-)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Recommended Reads by Karen Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 21:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a big fan of Kingsolver &amp; enjoyed Guernsey Literary..., so think you may enjoy these titles that were my favorites over the past 3 years of my book club (in no particular order):
1.	Bloodletting and Miraculous Cures (Vincent Lam)
2.	The Englishman’s Boy (Guy Vanderhaeghe)
3.	Bel Canto (Ann Pachett)
4.	Three Day Road (Joseph Boyden)
5.	Middlesex (Jeffrey Eugenides)
6.	Water for Elephants (Sara Gruen)
7.	The In-Between World of Vikram Lal (M.G Vissanji)
8.	The Cellist of Sarajevo •(Steven Galloway)
9.	Stones from the River (Ursula Hegi)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a big fan of Kingsolver &amp; enjoyed Guernsey Literary&#8230;, so think you may enjoy these titles that were my favorites over the past 3 years of my book club (in no particular order):<br />
1.	Bloodletting and Miraculous Cures (Vincent Lam)<br />
2.	The Englishman’s Boy (Guy Vanderhaeghe)<br />
3.	Bel Canto (Ann Pachett)<br />
4.	Three Day Road (Joseph Boyden)<br />
5.	Middlesex (Jeffrey Eugenides)<br />
6.	Water for Elephants (Sara Gruen)<br />
7.	The In-Between World of Vikram Lal (M.G Vissanji)<br />
8.	The Cellist of Sarajevo •(Steven Galloway)<br />
9.	Stones from the River (Ursula Hegi)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lies they tell in hotels by BJ Lownie</title>
		<link>http://www.theproposalguys.com/2010/02/03/lies-they-tell-in-hotels/comment-page-1/#comment-24721</link>
		<dc:creator>BJ Lownie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon? Ctnical? Nah. :-)

Sadly, I have to agree with Jon here. All too often what is said in the proposal doesn&#039;t stack up against reality. (That&#039;s probably why it can be scary to consider, &quot;What happens if we win based on this proposal?&quot;)

I haven&#039;t had the &#039;we can&#039;t allow you to have an iron in your room&#039; experience. In fact, my experience is the opposite, that being, I can&#039;t remember the last time I was in a hotel room thaqt didn&#039;t have an iron and an ironing board. (This is a good case of something becoming the standard and no longer something that is seen as real value or a differentiator - for me anyway, it&#039;s now baseline and I expect it. Real value would be my being able to give someone my shirts upon arrival and having them magically appear in my closet shortly therafter (preferrably at no charge! I think I&#039;ll dubmit that idea to the nice people at the Starwood Group! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon? Ctnical? Nah. :-)</p>
<p>Sadly, I have to agree with Jon here. All too often what is said in the proposal doesn&#8217;t stack up against reality. (That&#8217;s probably why it can be scary to consider, &#8220;What happens if we win based on this proposal?&#8221;)</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t had the &#8216;we can&#8217;t allow you to have an iron in your room&#8217; experience. In fact, my experience is the opposite, that being, I can&#8217;t remember the last time I was in a hotel room thaqt didn&#8217;t have an iron and an ironing board. (This is a good case of something becoming the standard and no longer something that is seen as real value or a differentiator &#8211; for me anyway, it&#8217;s now baseline and I expect it. Real value would be my being able to give someone my shirts upon arrival and having them magically appear in my closet shortly therafter (preferrably at no charge! I think I&#8217;ll dubmit that idea to the nice people at the Starwood Group! :-)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tried by Proposals by Graham Ablett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Ablett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very true BJ - and as you&#039;ve often said a good proposal does not necessarily win you the business on its own, but a poor one certainly can ensure that your bid campaign stops right there!

I think that Lincoln gives us some other valuable lessons that we can apply to proposals. I read &#039;The Team of Rivals&#039; by Doris Kearns Goodwin published by Penguin last year. As well as being a fascinating read, the book also shows the importance of strong leadership, working with people to build effective teams and having the right strategies - which are key components of any successful team. 
For example, Lincoln built his team based on what he believed would be the strongest collective, putting all personal differences aside. As you know the team of rivals was born and the rest, as they say, is history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true BJ &#8211; and as you&#8217;ve often said a good proposal does not necessarily win you the business on its own, but a poor one certainly can ensure that your bid campaign stops right there!</p>
<p>I think that Lincoln gives us some other valuable lessons that we can apply to proposals. I read &#8216;The Team of Rivals&#8217; by Doris Kearns Goodwin published by Penguin last year. As well as being a fascinating read, the book also shows the importance of strong leadership, working with people to build effective teams and having the right strategies &#8211; which are key components of any successful team.<br />
For example, Lincoln built his team based on what he believed would be the strongest collective, putting all personal differences aside. As you know the team of rivals was born and the rest, as they say, is history.</p>
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